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fullastern
14-08-2008, 17:11
It's well over three years now since I moved to live in Cork and there are still a few things I haven't unpacked since my arrival. I've been a collector of books, especially history books, all my life and I turned up one today that I hadn't seen for some time.

Cobh - Architectural Heritage is a small paperback published in 1979 by An Foras Forbartha which was a state body called, in English, the National Institute for Physical Planning and Construction Research Ltd. (a bit of a mouthful to say the least). It was originally planned that this book or booklet - it's only 86 pages - would be part of a series on architecturally important Irish towns. So far as I know there were only a handful of the books in the series published, including Cobh and Fermoy and Foras Forbartha was abolished in 1993 with some of its functions taken over by the Environmental Protection Agency.

Anyway the book is an architectural inventory of all the buildings in the town of Cobh - well those over 80 years old anyway. My own house is in it though the description isn't much - "a small, two bay, two storey house" (They obviously didn't know that I have a basement too).

Some of the descriptions - those of the town's major buildings - are much more detailed and there are some photos taken in 1979 (see below). It's an interesting record too of some of the shops and pubs in the town back in 1979 including a photo of the Well House which appears to be a pub on one side and a shop on the other because there's some plastic ice-cream cones on display in the window!

The photo of pubs in Casement Square is interesting - the four in question are all still there but three now have different names: The Saints (Tarrants), Ryans (still Ryans), The Seagull Bar (the Lusitania) and the Rotunda (the Mauretania). Incidentally the old hanging sign from the Seagull can still be seen - it's attached to the wall near the counter in Kelly's Bar!

I'll come back to some of the other descriptions soon.

Ned Kelly
15-08-2008, 12:02
Some memories there for me Fulla, I used to play darts for the saints in the 70's, a damn good pub it was too! I actually managed to beat one of the top dartists in the county one night there, feck who knows how but it happened!
Great ice creams were to be had from (the name escapes me) the shop above the wellhouse! Raspberry ripple was my favourite! Same owners if I remember rightly. It was one of the underage drinking establishments that we used to frequent! the wellhouse that is!~ I went to the tec with his daughter barbara, she was in our science class!

Katy
16-08-2008, 00:44
:)Thats one great find Fulla, like you over the years I collected history books I used to drive friends and family crazy, as I could not walk past an old book shop, without calling in....lol.

And so you dont feel guilty, I moved house ten years ago and still have boxes unpacked....its amazing how we forget things.....then as we search for other items we find lost memories, treasures packed away.

I have a loft, but refuse to put anything uptop, for the simple reason it will get totally forgotten.
Cheers for posting your find on site, magic........:)Katy

fullastern
16-08-2008, 09:25
Here are a few of the shop / business names mentioned in the book - they were all there in 1979:- (I won't include them all because there's too many)

Casement Square
1. Geasley's
2. C.E. Hall- paint and wallpaper
3. P. O'Sullivan
4. Bernardo's Grill (is that Mimmo's now?)
5. D. Corcoran
6. The Gardenia
7. Town Hall
11. The Saints Bar
12. Ryan's Bar
13. The Seagull Bar
14. The Rotunda Bar
15. M. English

Heading into Pearse Square:
The Westbourne Hotel (now Kelly's Bar I believe)
Westbourne Bay - a pub - may have been the bar of the hotel
Thomas White Chemist
W.P. English - stationery shop - still there
Rob Roy Bar - pub - also still there
The Central House
Grand Union House
K. Ahern - shop
J. Heffernan - bookmaker

Irish Permanent
Aeneas Lane - mentioned here before - one of the shops everyone knew
Cove Cleaners (still going strong)
O'Hanlon's - butcher shop
The Arcade
The Atlantic Inn
The Admiral
Martin's
La Moderne - clothing
O'Meara's
O'Shea VG Supermarket (now Centra)
J. Wilson (chemist)
Corlin Packaging
R.J. Cronin - I think this was a bicycle shop, later became Jim's cafe, now a shop
O'Mahony and B.J. Towmey
The Keen House
The Oval Bar - now Connie Doolan's
The European (now An Poc Fáda)

And that's just the main front West Beach and the two squares!

I'm sure some of those bring back memories for the non blow-ins!

Ned Kelly
16-08-2008, 11:31
*Dick Rosers* was the name of the ice cream shop above the wellhouse If I remember rightly, but don't quote me on it!

Ned Kelly
16-08-2008, 11:34
Bernardos was next to the gardenia? Mimmos is on the opposite side?

Ned Kelly
16-08-2008, 11:38
geasleys was a butcher shop,corcorans was a shoe mender?never heard of westbourne bay?

fullastern
16-08-2008, 12:12
Bernardos was next to the gardenia? Mimmos is on the opposite side?


Don't think so Ned but being a blow-in.....

As far as I can remember the Gardenia was on the left hand (west) side below the town hall arch - it was a restaurant called the Voyager up until a year or two ago -not sure what it is now. Mimmos is just below that on the same side.

I think Geasleys is one of the places that are now boarded up and subject of other threads on the forum. Didn't SIPTU (the ITGWU in your days Ned) have an office upstairs there one time?

Kieran
16-08-2008, 12:25
That Should be Westbourne Bar- not Bay. Bernardo's is Mimos, they were cousins and exchanged ownership. The gardenia was the Voyager as stated. Ned- didnt we also call Dick Rosers -Dick Nichersons? or something like that? I remember being brought in their in short pants for some brilliant Icecream!

Ned Kelly
18-08-2008, 11:42
Nichersons strikes a bell. I think we used to call it dick nicks? The best ice cream in Cobh thats for sure!

There was a fast food place on the way up to the arch on the left hand side, mimmos is on the other side is'nt it? Feck knows?

Ned Kelly
18-08-2008, 11:57
K do you remember a fried chicken place next to Pato's supermarket on the newtown road, opposite o'sullivans place!Who owned and ran it? any idea?

Katy
18-08-2008, 14:04
LOL....you have me dizzy....lol....:)