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Ned Kelly
20-03-2008, 11:57
Do you recognise this K?

Kieran
20-03-2008, 14:06
Yip, even if it is the wrong shade of blue. Did you know that such a flag covered the coffin of Jack Doyle. Not only is it the flag of the Irish Labour movement -Workers Republic, but its also that used by the Irish Ex-Boxers Association! Now there!

Ned Kelly
21-03-2008, 09:56
The Starry Plough (flag)



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/StarryPlough.svg/180px-StarryPlough.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:StarryPlough.svg) http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:StarryPlough.svg)
The modern Starry Plough flag .


The Starry Plough banner was originally used by the Irish Citizen Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Citizen_Army). The leader, James Connolly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Connolly), said the significance of the banner was that a free Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland) would control its own destiny from the plough (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plough) to the stars.
This was flown by the Irish Citizen Army during the 1916 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1916) Easter Rising (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Rising).
The flag depicts the constellation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation) of Ursa Major (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursa_Major), known as The Plough in Ireland and the UK, or in the US, the Big Dipper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Dipper).
The flag bears a striking (and coincedental) resemblance to the flag of the United States state of Alaska (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Alaska).

Starry Plough, 1930s to present

The design changed during the 1930s to that of the blue banner on the right, which was designed by members of the Republican Congress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Congress), and was adopted as the emblem of the Irish Labour movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Irish_Labour_movement&action=edit&redlink=1), including the Irish Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Labour_Party), though they eventually dropped it. It is also claimed by Irish republicans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_republicans) and has been carried alongside the Irish tricolour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_tricolour) and Irish provincial flags (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Ireland#Other_flags) and the sunburst flag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunburst_flag) at Provisional IRA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_IRA), Continuity IRA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_IRA), Official IRA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_IRA) and Irish National Liberation Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_National_Liberation_Army) rallies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonstration_%28people%29).
The flag, and alternative versions of it, are also used by the Connolly Youth Movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connolly_Youth_Movement), Labour Youth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Youth), Ógra Shinn Féin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%93gra_Shinn_F%C3%A9in) and the Republican Socialist Youth Movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Socialist_Youth_Movement). The older banner featuring the plough is still occasionally used today by the Irish Republican Socialist Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Socialist_Party), Sinn Féin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinn_F%C3%A9in) and the Workers Party of Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers_Party_of_Ireland), the descendants of Official Sinn Féin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Sinn_F%C3%A9in).


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fullastern
21-03-2008, 11:44
The Starry Plough (flag)



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/StarryPlough.svg/180px-StarryPlough.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:StarryPlough.svg) http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:StarryPlough.svg)
The modern Starry Plough flag .


The Starry Plough banner was originally used by the Irish Citizen Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Citizen_Army). The leader, James Connolly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Connolly), said the significance of the banner was that a free Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland) would control its own destiny from the plough (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plough) to the stars.
This was flown by the Irish Citizen Army during the 1916 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1916) Easter Rising (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Rising).
The flag depicts the constellation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation) of Ursa Major (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursa_Major), known as The Plough in Ireland and the UK, or in the US, the Big Dipper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Dipper).
The flag bears a striking (and coincedental) resemblance to the flag of the United States state of Alaska (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Alaska).

Starry Plough, 1930s to present

The design changed during the 1930s to that of the blue banner on the right, which was designed by members of the Republican Congress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Congress), and was adopted as the emblem of the Irish Labour movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Irish_Labour_movement&action=edit&redlink=1), including the Irish Labour Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Labour_Party), though they eventually dropped it. It is also claimed by Irish republicans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_republicans) and has been carried alongside the Irish tricolour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_tricolour) and Irish provincial flags (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Ireland#Other_flags) and the sunburst flag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunburst_flag) at Provisional IRA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_IRA), Continuity IRA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_IRA), Official IRA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_IRA) and Irish National Liberation Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_National_Liberation_Army) rallies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonstration_%28people%29).
The flag, and alternative versions of it, are also used by the Connolly Youth Movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connolly_Youth_Movement), Labour Youth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Youth), Ógra Shinn Féin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%93gra_Shinn_F%C3%A9in) and the Republican Socialist Youth Movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Socialist_Youth_Movement). The older banner featuring the plough is still occasionally used today by the Irish Republican Socialist Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Socialist_Party), Sinn Féin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinn_F%C3%A9in) and the Workers Party of Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers_Party_of_Ireland), the descendants of Official Sinn Féin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Sinn_F%C3%A9in).


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As far as I know the flag was designed by Seán O'Casey the writer - one time activist in the Irish Citizen Army.

There is a dark blue version and the one flown in 1916 was on a green background with an actual depiction of a plough and not just the stars.

Kieran
21-03-2008, 20:18
Wasnt there a plough and stars on the flag of those Irish that rebelled against the brits in Oz in the 19th century, or was I dreaming?

Ned Kelly
22-03-2008, 10:43
Close K, but no cigar, this was the Eureka Stockade Flag, Peter Lalor from Leitrim was one of the leaders in ballarat Against the ridiculous taxes been imposed by HMG in OZ!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Stockade